Thrive: The Story is Wrong but the Spirit is Right

[11/21/11]
“What is keeping us from thriving?” asks the new movie, Thrive. The answer it gives is “the global elite,” the people who control the financial system that in turn controls everything else. Operating through the power institutions of our society, this elite pursues a conscious agenda of total world dominance, purposely suppressing anything that would disrupt their power: from clean energy to alternative cancer cures.

This answer might serve to give expression to feelings of rage, hate, grief, and indignation that otherwise, in a world where the wrongness is so ubiquitous as to seem woven into the fabric of reality itself, would turn inward. Ultimately, though, this answer feeds the mentality of control that is a much deeper culprit in humanity’s failure to thrive.

To put primary blame on the global elite says that the primary problem is not the system; it is the masters of the system. If only they were not such awful, greedy – in a word, evil – people, they would relent and create a new system. Certainly that’s what you and I would do if we were in a position of power – right? Because we, unlike they, are decent people. In other words, the culprit for the planet’s woes is evil, which implies that the solution is to somehow defeat or eliminate evil (though to its credit, Thrive advocates non-violent means to accomplish this.)

The quest to create a better world through conquering evil lies at the heart of civilization as we know it. Originating in the earliest agricultural civilizations, the concept of evil first applied to weeds, wolves, locusts, hail storms, and other natural phenomena that were, before agriculture, merely parts of an interdependent whole, and not the enemies of mankind.

In the ensuing millennia, the War Against Evil developed in tandem with technology and religion. The conquest of nature extended into the internal realms and became a struggle for self-mastery, self-control, and the transcendence of the flesh. It extended into the social realm as programs of social engineering that sought to eliminate evil on a mass scale. Taken to its extreme, it took the form of purges, pogroms, ethnic cleansing, Nazism, Stalinism, Maoism. In other words, the elimination of evil lends itself to the very same dominator mindset that is part of the problem.

Thrive advocates peaceful non-compliance with the institutions of domination, except in cases of “self-defense”. But when you see an enemy implacably bound to enslave you or murder you, the line between defense and offense blurs. What war of aggression in the last hundred years has not been justified as a kind of self-defense? The Indians are scalping innocent settlers! The North Vietnamese communists attacked our ships in the Gulf of Tonkin! Remember the Lusitania! The terrorist regime is producing weapons of mass destruction!

That is not to say that there aren’t powerful people in the world that do tremendous damage, or that these people should not be held to account. These people, however, are produced and given power by a system that runs deeper than anyone’s capacity to design. It is a system that has taken on a life of its own, a system that includes even the film’s favorite targets – the Rockefellers and Rothschilds – among its thralls. The money system – born of interest-bearing debt and generating separation and exponential growth – is at its core, but even the money system rests on a deeper foundation. It rests on our civilization’s defining myths: scarcity, reductionism, determinism, dualism, separation. But as the filmmaker must know, these stories have run their course, and so has the world built atop them.

The money system and its underlying mythology necessitate the roles that the power elite fill. Remove those people without changing the underlying beliefs, and new tyrants will rise to take their place. However strong our idealism, do we imagine that our revolution against evil will produce results any better than the French Revolutionaries or the Bolsheviks did? The War against Evil never ends, because it generates a limitless supply of new enemies, progeny of its own shadow.

Perhaps there was a conscious conspiracy to suppress free energy devices, alternative cancer therapies, and so forth, or maybe it was an unconscious conspiracy comprising the agents of the status quo whose careers and intellectual paradigms these technologies violate. In either case, the suppression is decreasingly effective, as the guardians and executors of the system struggle just to keep it going a couple years longer. The analogy to control-based technologies of agriculture or medicine is quite precise. You can suppress each new pesticide-resistant weed with a new chemical, but eventually the consequences of chemical agriculture pile up faster than you can invent new technological fixes to deal with them. It works great at first and yields rise significantly with very little effort, but eventually huge chemical input is needed even to break even. In medicine, you can suppress with a pharmaceutical drug the symptoms caused by the last pharmaceutical drug, but eventually the patient is on twenty medications and getting no better; synergistic side effects proliferate and the patient rapidly deteriorates. Such is the inevitable end game for any program of control. The illusion of control can only be maintained temporarily, and at ever greater cost.

If there ever was an Illuminati orchestrating world events, it has lost control. Today, the atmosphere among the financial elite fluctuates between panic and resignation. They cannot be bothered to suppress films like Thrive, like What on Earth, like Moon Rising, magazines like Infinite Energy, and all the information freely available on the Internet that is accelerating the shift of consciousness away from separation and scarcity.

The ground has already begun to shift, and that shift will accelerate as the “old normal” falls apart. It has fallen apart in many ways already, yet its afterimage lingers. The supermarkets are still full of food, the malls full of shoppers, the highways full of cars, and the ATM’s full of cash. The last-ditch strategy of the financial elite, “extend and pretend”, applies to our entire society. It is still possible to pretend that the world of our parents will be the world of our children, and to extend its lifestyle a few more years. But that pretense is wearing thin.

Despite this criticism, I would say that Thrive gets the story wrong but the spirit right. The dominator model is not an evil to overcome, but rather an evolutionary stage that has reached its fulfillment and is giving way to something new. Toward the end, the film touches on this understanding through the words of Elisabet Sahtouris, who likens the present historical moment to the metamorphosis of a caterpillar into a butterfly, or to the transition of an ecosystem from headlong growth in its immature state, to symbiotic homeostasis in its mature state. I wish the film had given her greater voice, and developed the idea that the power elite are not reprehensible villains, but players of a role soon to become obsolete. This would be an attitude of forgiveness and invitation. After all, the rewards of the rich, whether measured in money or political power, do little to further their authentic happiness. The rest of us, having not attained the pinnacle of success, can at least tell ourselves that our angst would be relieved if only we reached the top of the ladder. The power elite have no such anodyne to assuage the desolation of life at the top. The system, in other words, isn’t working for them either. We want to invite the 1% into a world that is better for everyone.

The film argues that if only we threw off the yoke of the tyrannical Illuminati, we would live in a magnificent, abundant, peaceful world. For example, it says, the deliberate suppression of “free energy” technology would end. Again, the film gets the story wrong but the spirit right. I won’t consider here the scientific plausibility of such technology, which appears to violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics, but will rather address the film’s contention that the main reason for the misery of the Third World masses is lack of access to energy, and that unlimited clean energy would be a near-panacea for humanity’s problems and would usher in an era of abundance. The story here – call it “technological utopianism” – is that technology is going to rescue us, create a new and better world, and solve our problems. We have heard this story many times before, starting with the steam engine, and proceeding through electricity, chemicals, atomic energy, computers, economics and political science, nanotechnology… each invention promised an age of leisure, freedom from disease, social perfection, and other wonders; two hundred years later, none of these promises has been redeemed. We work longer hours than in 1973 and, by many measures, are sicker and unhappier than a primitive tribesperson or peasant.

Why has the promise of technology never been redeemed? If not an evil illuminati consciously suppressing or co-opting the technologies of abundance, what has kept us in a state of scarcity and extreme inequality? If we don’t address the reason at its root, and instead blame it on evil people, we will never redeem the promise either.

The truth is that without a change in our consciousness and in the social systems built on our consciousness, no technology will be any more successful than any of those I just listed in bringing peace and prosperity to all people on earth. Indeed, such a vision, and the technologies that are part of it, seem “too good to be true” to someone accustomed to scarcity and habituated to the responses to scarcity: domination, control, struggle against each other and against nature. When this mindset changes, no new technology is even necessary. We already have, and always have had, potential abundance at our fingertips. The scarcity that so many experience today is not the result of any fundamental lack, but rather of the maldistribution of political power and resources. What kind of abundance would we have if we didn’t spend trillions of dollars on wars, guns, non-recyclable packaging, sprawling suburbs, automobile culture, consumer junk, transcontinental food, unnecessary pharmaceuticals, and every other form of waste that contributes nothing to human happiness? In one way or another, all of these things are the end products of a civilization built on separation.

A world of justice and abundance doesn’t depend on any new technology, yet it is also true that new kinds of technology will emerge from a different kind of consciousness. The shift of consciousness of which I speak is from separation to oneness; from being to “interbeing”; from a discrete and separate self in an external objective universe, to an integral part that contains the whole. The new self seeks less to dominate than to cocreate, less to control than to share. It knows that the whole universe is as alive and as conscious as oneself. From that perspective, technologies that do no harm to other beings come naturally; from this perspective, it seems as a matter of course that the universe wants to freely provide what we need, rather than requiring us to wrest it from an indifferent or hostile environment. Thus we have a paradox: we do not need new technology to enjoy abundance; yet, the shift of perception that is necessary to enjoy abundance will also bring forth new technology. Or we might say that free energy technology will be a symptom that our consciousness has shifted, or perhaps an instrument for the actualization of abundance consciousness in material reality. The filmmaker understands that on some level. The spirit coming through is this: a more beautiful world is possible, right in front of our faces, waiting only for us to accept it. It is a spirit of vast possibility readily available.

Because it carries this spirit, the film has attracted a cult following despite its disjointed editing, repetitiveness, and the narrator’s frequent resort to “I believe,” and “I am firmly convinced” in place of actual evidence or arguments. Indeed, at times it seems that the film wants to be about Foster Gamble’s personal journey to radicalism and hope. Despite its flaws, in its invocation of evil and in its appeal to technological salvation, Thrive arouses our conviction that the world isn’t supposed to be this way, and that a much better world is closer than we dare think. Even if it wrongly ascribes the source of the problem and misidentifies the essence of the solution, still it will stimulate people to deepen their questioning of the boundaries of consensus reality. This is a good thing. Once the questioning starts, it will not stop until we arrive at a new story aligned with the spirit being born today.

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  • http://www.commons.org&www.performancemanagementinstitute.com JW Ballard

    Very beautifully stated and elaborated sir! It has been my privilege to see much of the same things Foster sees, and to arrive at the same conclusion you have some years ago. Here’s to the imminent shift in individual awareness and collective will. Thanks for articulating this perspective so thoroughly and effectively.

    • Justbe

      When we leave behind making things right or wrong and observe and interact with as much of the diminsionality of that which we are observing as we can, then unexpected and surprising realization and resonance is the gift to ourselves. The expansion comes when we can take an idea, design, model …surrender to it, then move on and see what sticks, what continues to resonate, what falls away, what evolves, what transforms. There is more joy in this life when we give up the need to peg things in black and white.

  • TigerLily

    You are rocking my world brother. Your writings are the most solid, grounded, truth speaking I have heard in a very long time. It brings it all together for me, (the spiritual, political, social, psychological and creative) in a concise coherent vision of what this (what’s happening now on this beautiful planet) is. Keep it coming.

    With love and respect and gratitude,
    tl

  • http://rebirthingbreathwork.com leonard orr

    what keeps us from printing and distributing money in an intelligent way?

  • http://twitter.com/giyom Guillaume Lebleu

    Hasn’t technology played a major role already towards oneness? or are you arguing that it has only provided a veneer or oneness?

  • birdwoman

    Excellent stuff, thanks for sharing your voice with us.

  • Marypen211

    Ready to shift here!

  • Anonymous

    Very well said, Mr. Eisenstein. I think you really nailed it here.

    I am a fan of the Thrive movie, and fairly familiar with the subjects in it – “free energy” not being the least of them. And still, I have learned a lot just from your posting here. The problem is not so easy as “finding blame”. We are going to have take responsibility for the whole thing, and every little thing in it. Darn.

    Now- how do we get this 2000 word essay into a couple of soundbites?

  • LionHeart

    so the purges, pogroms and ethic cleansing in the pursuit of the eradication of evil are not the same as those associated with the transhumanism/eugenics agenda and the creation of a less critical and more subservient slave-race for the very same ruling classes whose fault this is not? I love evil people, I simply do – without them i’d be given over to epic laziness. Furthermore, I see full well the potential for all evil ever comitted in my own heart and mind. But what of the care-cremated occult sorcerors who actively participate in the ritual removal of conscience from their concern? People in big money and big power families. Do they not need to be loved into some kind of submission or will the collective wake up … hang on i’ve not read on Mr Onestone. I truly think mankind would thrive without eugenics is all.

  • Soulfeather

    i think Thrive gets the story ‘right’ and the spirit ‘right’ AND there are ‘other’ stories that are also ‘right’ like Charles’s story… i dont know if we all will realize that when dealing with perception and stories, one story or perception does not render others ‘wrong’. did we not learn this with Christianity saying that their story of creation was ‘right’ and all others ‘wrong’. Charles falls into his own judgement and implies that Thrive’s story is ‘wrong’ and his is ‘right’. i would say they are ‘both right’ and simply extending the story of humanity further. Thrive is an important first step for many people, and their authentic feelings of supressed rage/sorrow/fear must be felt. first a victim must be validated before they can stand in their own power as Creator. and yes there are victims here, not all people command awareness to the capacity that Charles does (although every person has the same potential)… duality is just as important as Oneness… we could not have had Gandhi without the British Empire, Sitting Bull without the US Army, Martin Luther King, without Racism, Mother Tereasa without poverty, Thrive without Coorporate Elite, Charles without Thrive… and maybe we are entering an age where we let go of suffering and greed, yet in order to do this we must realize that people who disagree are both ‘right’ since what we are dealing with is perception and many levels of consiousness where there is paradox since two seeminly opposing truths can occupy the same time and space… so for you and i Charles is a very important step yet lets not negate the importance for those who identify wholeheartedly with Thrive…. thank you and gratitude for the Truth in all stories… mitchell soulfeather

    • Sean Garrison

      Nice. I like what you have to say too.

    • peacebrigade

      thankyou for your comments … I agree with you wholeheartedly

    • Nirav

      Absolutely Soulfeather! Light and darkness (yin/yang, electric/magnetic, information/ignorance, truth/false) are part of the same intricate equation of duality, necessary in this dimension so that our material particles may Thrive. All are components of the same Oneness. It is biased judgement harnessed through a cultural conditioning of scarcity and separation that rocks the boat in dangerous ways, but that in itself is a great learning. It’s all relative to the eye (consciousness) of the observer.

    • Sister Alana

      YES!

  • Paul Hess

    I really like this critique. We need to go beyond blame to look at the dark side of all of us, like projection and blame, when there is a little facist in all of us. The critique of the left needs to go further and can be found in writings of people like Michael Lerner in his book, The Left Hand of God, and in various critiques of feminism, like the Myth of Male Power by Warren Farrell.

    I am excited to see the basic assumption of the logic of separation being addressed. I think the alternative is not exactly oneness, it is connectedness that assumes difference otherwise there would be nothing to connect. The distinction is between dichotomies like good and evil, versus duality of fluid complementary difference, like yin and yang. Duality has gotten a bad rap; the problem is dichotomy. Oneness leads to dogamism and is likely based on primary narcissism–the unity with mother before adult independence, a world of unconditional love withouth striving or responsbility. Although most leftists will deny this implication before they consider it, it is easily exploited by conservatives when they talk about the liberal “mommy party.” The daddy party is the logic of separation. The alternative is either gender neutral and/ or fluid between masc and fem.

    I have mapped out these issues in great detail with soruces. These are very complex issues that must be considered carefully, beyond the usual leftist knee-jerk dismissal. I thank you, Charles, for elevating the debate.

    • Sean Garrison

      Thanks for pointing this out. I like how you throw it out there with where youre coming from. That makes learning faster to me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Paul-Hess/642129600 Paul Hess

    I really like this critique. We need to go beyond blame to look at the dark side of all of us, like projection and blame, when there is a little facist in all of us. The critique of the left needs to go further and can be found in writings of people like Michael Lerner in his book, The Left Hand of God, and in various critiques of feminism, like the Myth of Male Power by Warren Farrell.

    I am excited to see the basic assumption of the logic of separation being addressed. I think the alternative is not exactly oneness, it is connectedness that assumes difference otherwise there would be nothing to connect. The distinction is between dichotomies like good and evil, versus duality of fluid complementary difference, like yin and yang. Duality has gotten a bad rap; the problem is dichotomy. Oneness leads to dogamism and is likely based on primary narcissism–the unity with mother before adult independence, a world of unconditional love withouth striving or responsbility. Although most leftists will deny this implication before they consider it, it is easily exploited by conservatives when they talk about the liberal “mommy party.” The daddy party is the logic of separation. The alternative is either gender neutral and/ or fluid between masc and fem.

    I have mapped out these issues in great detail with soruces. These are very complex issues that must be considered carefully, beyond the all to common leftist knee-jerk dismissal. I thank you, Charles, for elevating the debate.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jesse.gros Jesse Gros

      Powerful, detailed and spot on. Damn! Do you have a cliff notes version I can pass around?

    • Sabine Gaudriller

      Dear Paul
      Bravo, You have put in precise yet concise words what I think. And like Jesse, I wish to pass it around. Merci beaucoup.
      Sabine GAUDRILLER

  • http://www.8thLife.org Stella

    Brilliant. Just a piece missing, about how technology (art, our designs in general, whether conscious or not) also shapes consciousness, in turn.

    It’s precisely this cyclic nature of systems that befuddles us, and to the extent that we learn to think in more cyclical ways, understanding how systems behave a lot better, I believe we will be able to design the change.

    And indeed need to make this transition by design – rather than by default.

  • http://www.facebook.com/wealthbuildingcourse Thomas Herold

    What really fascinated me about this movie was the amount of conspiracy theories that was build in. The movie maker packed in everything they could. However the end – showing the money system – made it worthwhile seeing.

  • Guest

    I agree very much with your analysis here, Charles, but would go further to name the utter nonsense in the film (“free energy” and UFOs, not to mention the grand conspiracy of the elite stuff you addressed). It’s very difficult to take a film like this seriously when it espouses delusions like those, which is too bad because a lot of it is right, including the calls to action they provide on their website. Alas, the baby will be thrown out with the bathwater.

    • Sean Garrison

      You are in a rather large and familiar group friend.

    • Saskor

      Do you assume the role of the “all-knowing?” Your declaration of the “utter nonsense” in the film reveals your ignorance and arrogance! You need to pray for wisdom and discernment skills. You my friend are the one who is delusional – the deceived rarely are capable of acknowledging their own deception.

    • Anonymous

      Exactly. We need intelligent solutions to our problems, not some simplistic conspiracy-mongering combined with outright delusions. “Free energy” — both in practice and in theory — has been debunked time and time again. And what can be said about David Icke, they guy who seriously believes that reptilian humanoids rule the earth? The type of naive thinking represented in Thrive is exactly what we don’t need at this critical juncture in human development.

    • Serenatopia

      Great Comment…

      Any documentary that has half-truths raises more questions than answers…

      Maybe the world elite is preparing us for a staged alien invasion…where apparently…they will decide to become better human beings under a fabricated new world order?

      How about that for a conspiracy theory lol…

  • Idiverse

    Just a comment on the new energy technology — There is a great deal of esoteric physics still largely unknown by the majority of the population which supports the development of ‘free energy’ technology. I recommend an in-depth study of Paramahansa Tewari in tandem with Nassim Haramein — East & West. The wider truth is that this technology does not violate any laws of thermodynamics. I believe you meant to reference the first law, not the second — the 1st law thermodynamics states that no system can produce more energy than is put into it. That law is still true. However, *we* can obtain more energy from a system than *we* put into it, and this is a proven fact. Again, look up Tewari, or Bruce DePalma, for starters. Also, of course, do a thorough study of Tesla, and also Nikolai Kozyrev. In order to understand how this works, we need an understanding of the structure of Space itself, which Haramein has brilliantly outlined in his Unified Field Theory. Our “material” reality is the manifestation of a limitless sea of energy fluctuations which we are just now beginning to observe and measure with our contemporary scientific instruments. For example, current observations suggest that the nucleus of a proton contains the mass equivalent of the entire known universe — all its stars, quasars, pulsars, everything. Sounds absurd? The math supports it. Within each nucleus of a proton, or even of an atom, we observe a singularity that accords with the conditions of a “black hole.” Coincidentally, our entire observable universe obeys this condition — it is too massive for any light to escape it, so technically speaking we are living inside a black hole, comprised of numberless black holes. When we examine the structural infinities found in finite systems, we observe the infinite information and energy is contained within each finite system. That is to say that each point contains the whole, just the whole contains all points. This can help us comprehend the reality of ‘free energy.’ The entire universe is essentially free energy in motion — all the electrons in a stone are in ‘perpetual motion.’ This energy is available at all points in the universe, and we can tap into it. As you say, technology is not a salve for humanity’s ignorance — the consciousness with which we apply the tool supersedes the importance or even the value of the tool itself. But, the application of the tool is an expression or manifestation of the consciousness, so we can say that technology [which is the application of knowledge, in any case] and consciousness are one and the same — the two terms make no distinction to the one reality they reflect. Technology *can* and *does* drive changes in consciousness-awareness. Look at the way the Internet, and its concomitant flow of information, has re-shaped our worldview, fashioning a sense of ‘global village’ never before seen. In this case, a technical development actually helped to engender a new philosophical sense of unity. So, I have to contradict you in saying that the revelation of new technologies can have a profound effect on our behaviors; and, potentially, it *can* cause us to act in more harmonious, peaceful ways, especially when the very knowledge that gave rise to that technology pertains to actual functions and equilibrium of the universe itself. Further to that — we can never really be too precise in delineating the history of ‘power’ on planet Earth; and there are aspects to our history that most people would find preposterous for the simple reason that they resemble something from a strange sci-fi-fantasy. Truth *is* stranger than fiction — so I urge each of us to remain comprehensively ‘open.’ I would suggest that the unconscious conspiracy *and* the conscious conspiracy [not either/or] have always co-existed; and, as such, it is the conscious conspiracy which, due to its sophistication and organization, has always had the ‘upper hand.’ There are far too many corroborating data-points to dismiss what history has shown us; however, I agree with you that a crusade against ‘evil’ is as futile now as it has ever been. In sum — our consciousness must catch up with our technique — and also, a word of caution: to believe in the guarantee of an altruistic evolution for humanity may be considerably naive. There have been ‘enlightenments’ and ‘renaissances’ in the past, and we are still here today, struggling with the same ‘limitations’ of ignorance. I do not subscribe or suggest anyone give credence to the concept of ‘evil’; however, ignorance is something which can actually be measured to such a degree as to be mathematically irrefutable. To cast “the elite” as ‘normal, average’ people would be a mistake — people who are born into these families are ‘bred’ for a purpose, and they are fed a steady diet of psychological programming from a young age — essentially eugenics, though there is more to it than that. While we must indeed focus the majority of our work on our own inner demons, whether they be fear or greed based, we must also be vigilant to that ignorance which seeks to enslave. As Jacque Fresco asserts [and I agree], ‘human nature’ is not some static, predetermined element. It is largely a product of environment. The tricky thing is that behavior then feeds into the conditions of the environment, which then support that behavior in a feedback loop. But — when the environment is radically altered, so too will behavior change to a same degree. It must. That is evolution and adaptation. If, tomorrow, “free energy” technology were suddenly available to everyone, and if everyone had all the food, clothing, and shelter they needed — in short, if the Survival game were over, we would *immediately* shift into a totally new way of Being. Would all human dramas end? Of course not! I don’t think anyone would make such an adolescent claim. But certainly we would take a quantum leap in a new direction! And, with that change in our environment, we would be much better position to take an in-depth examination of all these other issues you have mentioned, and to work foremost on the evolution of consciousness to be in alignment with the principles of the universe, or simply, Law.

    • Sean Garrison

      Wow, what a response. You make yourself clear. Easy for me to follow.

    • peacebrigade

      A brilliant response… thankyou and thankyou to the writer of this article.. I agree no-one here is right or wrong.. the way each individual perceives the movie is unique to them.. I do appreciate the quality of this discussion and the respect shown to each others opinions.. and with these resources at play, a profound new trust that love WILL prevail further weaves into the fabric of our existence… thankyou … I am so grateful

    • Guest

      I believe he is correct is stating this contradicts the second law of thermodynamics. As Paul Hawken, who is in the film also, stated on his blog: ” If you do something that defies entropy, then life is impossible, because life is negentropic and thus a result of entropy. Entropy cannot exist episodically for some things but not for others. That is the issue. As for Italy, scientists have been making announcements about cold fusion for many years and none have proven correct. But it could happen; cold fusion may not be impossible by the laws of physics, just by the interpretation of it. I suspect it occurs in living beings. But confirming cold fusion is one thing, and scaling it to be remotely meaningful with respect to energy is another thing. So anyone saying Zero Point is possible (every claim has been proven as a fraud, over and over again) needs to show how the rest of universe hangs together in face of their ‘new’ science.”

    • bishop mofo

      i’m so tired of this “no one is right or wrong”

      THRIVE makes claims that are either true or false. Either free energy is possible, or it’s not. Either free-energy machines are being suppressed by the global elite, or they’re not.

      You cannot claim science supports your position and then fall back on absolute relativism when your claims are debunked.

      haramein is a CHARLATAN. He brings NOTHING new that is true, and nothing true that is new.

      WAKE U P PEOPLE! USE YOUR BRAINS!

    • Jdtecumseh

      “the energy is available at all points, and we can tap into it.”

      yeah, einstein figured this out 80 years ago. (e=mc2)

      this is the basis of nuclear power, whether military or peaceful. Problems come along with that, i’m sure you’ve heard about them.

      the idea that we can somehow get the energy contained in all matter without any problems is a nice IDEA but has ZERO EVIDENCE for it, so anyone bandying it about as some kind of readymade solution to ANY problems, let alone ALL human problems is a FOOL or LIAR.

    • Tabadila

      is it not funny that they focus on the external effects while it is the inner where the true power lies. the torus as the structure upon which creation is based is at the same time one of evolution. from + and – to the zero. it is one of consciousness of different levels, it is spiritual, first, matter second. and not just external. but the drawing to left and right the steps to the so called good and evil that eventually leads to awakening to its reflections instead of attachment to it. to be free from its cycle of life and death. free from its pull and raise above it all. true wonderfull new technology,s, but unless we first free ourselves from+ and – all these new things fall into the hands good and evil. but good is good is it not? only in relation with the conditioning. http://www.truth-revelations.com

      • Saskor

        Your ramblings not only make no sense (psychobabble) – you need to develop your grammar and punctuation skills.

    • http://www.facebook.com/magickriver Antares M

      I am awed and reassured to observe the dynamic interaction of so much intelligence, so elegantly articulated. Buckminster Fuller was a tremendous inspiration to me, and I was prompted to adopt him as my grandfather in 1975. The mystical aspect of my core being informs me that the quantum shift of consciousness now dramatically underway occurs in a multitude of dimensions and is virtually impossible to describe in linear language. There are moments when each of us is compelled to acknowledge the ultimate paradox wherein we are simultaneously significant and insignificant, powerful and powerless, cause and effect, ancient and newborn. The birth of the Divine Human, as foreshadowed 2,000 years ago by the Yeshua and Magdalene incarnations, like all births, appears to be a glorious fusion of pain and pleasure, as we experience hell breaking loose – and heaven breaking free.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rcdefreitas Ralph C. De Freitas

    I am happy to see the response that this movie (Thrive) has generated, because the clash of differing opinions put forth here will, eventually, reveal to an increasingly enlightened humanity, the essence of an emerging reality and consciousness, indeed, a consciousness that we are at the threshold of humanity’s spiritual maturity. I’ve seen the movie twice and I consider myself a fan of the “spirit” of the movie, to quote Charles’ words. Charles Eisenstein wrote that “Thrive gets the story wrong but the spirit right.” I think that overall, he makes a fair criticism of the movie, without giving it a thumbs down entirely. Without going into any detail here, when we consider the general, global atmosphere and trend – the OCCUPY MOVEMENT, etc. – of the last several months, it is easy to see how this influenced some of the language used by the narrator. On the other hand, for the average intelligent person today, some of what has been said still appears to border on conjecture. But, just because a phenomenon is out of the reach of the average person’s comprehension, or even for today’s scientists (of a Cartesian-Newtonian world view – a term used by John Fitzgerald Medina, in his book, FAITH PHYSICS and PSYCHOLOGY) to accept, this does not prove it to be wrong.

  • http://www.facebook.com/regendiseno Grifen Hope

    Thanks Charles. Transformative learning … if it was difficult it wouldn’t be (sterling).
    99+1%=shift.
    So then, what kind of experiences stimulate shifts in consciousness towards new ecological and participatory world views? Our critical challenge is to provide accelerated & transformative learning pathways that enable people and communities to build the values, knowledge and skills required for making the transition, and to avoid ever likely discontinuity … regenerative design, the way we co-create our world, a creation story in which all of us participates.
    How can I act in my communities of practice in a way that empowers others to act in a way, that empowers others to act…?
    As Chopra said recently, the solutions are with us, and we are the solution, we need to lift our consciousness one level up. We are in a time of duality, many have a foot in new paradigm(s), and the other firmly in the old … it is very easy to fool ourselves, thinking we are leading change, whilst simply acting to reinforce old ways.
    Let go of the shore …

  • Anonymous

    The powers that be are not worried by films such as this. Mixing together some real information with nonsense keeps the grassroots ineffective. The best disinformation is mostly correct.

    Some of the people interviewed in this film are excellent. Some are so ludicrous that one hopes they don’t actually believe the dog food they’re promoting.

  • Genespicks

    Wonderful piece of work and I love all that was written. I have learned that you can be for what you see and believe without going against someone else or calling an idea wrong because you have a different sight around it. I believe that both ideas can share the same space, and be held. I love the project Thrive, and even though there are comments in this article in which I have a different sight. I remind myself to leave room for other ideas and opinions because I see it as key part to co-creating. How can we bring forth our vision of what we see without being bad or wrong? There is a way to just witness and hold both what I believe to be true and ideas that are not in support of my vision. Love, Learn, Play, Thrive.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mike.grenville Mike Grenville

    We already have almost free energy with oil, which for the last 100 years has been incredibly cheap. When we make energy efficiencies, we often end up consuming more as we feel it is less scarce. So if we found supposed limitless free energy (excepting the sun and photosynthesis which we have already) we would just consume the minerals and other resources of the planet even faster.

    So until we have a complete shift of collective consciousness ‘free energy’ will not bring about happiness for the world as whole family.

    • Shiloh

      good point

  • bishopmofo

    questioning the dominant paradigm is no longer enough. It’s not even rare. It’s common as water.

    i’d rather see people practice good critical thinking, and in those terms, this film is a disaster.

  • Ryan Nagy

    You white font on black background is difficult to read, especially on longer articles.

  • Erin

    Thank you, Charles, once again for your thoughtful, compassionate analysis. It is always a pleasure and honor to receive the blessings of your wise consideration on so many important issues.

  • Erin Ross

    Thank you, Charles, once again for your thoughtful, compassionate analysis. It is always a pleasure and honor to receive the blessings of your wise consideration on so many important issues.

  • Anonymous

    Very well put, Mr. Eisenstein. The interesting thing is that the predicament and consequences of living by an assumption of separation is astonishingly simple to see intellectually. It’s hardly more than a kid’s so-called “chinese torture game,” where the more you try to pull your finger free, the more you’re caught. Likewise, any attempt to “believe” in non-separation or avoid self-control is more separation, more control, more being caught. One seems unable to merely believe in the mistake of separation and control and have it mean anything, but one has to, in a sense, run head first into the consequences of the delusion itself, collapse (as Charles puts it), and then notice the consequences on a phsyical/chemical/emotional/intellectual level, not just verbally. One has to enjoy, or at least not try to escape the pain of being an idiot in order to learn.

    But if my intention is to confront my imbecility head on, then my biggest failure (and ironically best chance of learning!) is noticing that I always eject into the abstract at the last minute. I land in some outside perspective, gazing back at my failures like the lab-coated know-it-all, not like the dummy in the wreck. Analysis, in other words, is the last refuge of idiots who refuse to learn (I’m speaking here of my own experience here).

    Fun (and learning) lies perhaps in directing attention to my unwarranted conceit; to weigh on the one hand the facts of idiocy and on the other my nagging delusion of intelligence.

    And yet an assumption of separation (the seed of war also) can’t be dissolved by any force of will (which presumes resistance, control, a separate me who is seeking self improvement, etc.). This is the torture game yet again.

    And yet this is also failure, which is the opportunity of a lifetime. We have to learn to love failure methinks. It all depends on whether I can pivot on that point of failure and feel its reality, or whether I keep taking it as a source of frustration (thereby trying to escape the insight of failure via more separative analysis and verbiage). So it’s always a surprise (at this juncture for the present writer) to discover over and over again his own relative stupidity, his finger yet again stuck in the trap, discovering yet again the stupidity of trying to escape escaping or control controlling or unite separation. It’s forever shocking for me to discover that my efforts to understand or improve or escape or control is the pulling of the tube that creates the stuck condition from which effort is born, and back again, on and on. Beautiful/comic/insightful or frustrating/ maddening/idiotic, take your pick.

    The problem seems to lie partially in the limitations of thought itself, and the whole business of verbal acknowledgement, which gives a false sense of clarity. To acknowledge error is to point at it. But how can anyone point at an error embedded in the very act of pointing itself? I mean, it’s easy to identify faults that have already happened. But how do I deal with faults embedded in my very response to error? (By the way, David Bohm calls this a lack of psychological proprioception, very cool way of seeing it).

    To have knowledge of something is to have a mental model, an object of imagination that can be tested, manipulated in thought. Thought is perfect for solving technical problems because it can project the problem to the appropriate place. When I try to figure out a puzzle I imagine different solutions and then apply them to the puzzle. But when turned inwardly, thought also treats itself inappropriately as a technical problem like any old piece of external hardware. It’s inevitably misleading because the pointing rod will always point away from the act of pointing (will point to the immediate or distant past, not to the mistaken assumption of separation imbedded in the current act of pointing). The end result is that thinking becomes implicitly and sometimes explicitly accusatory even when it’s turned inwardly, and incapable of finding the source of its own error.

    Picture a dog who farts and then suddenly looks around to see where the sound came from. Thought, you might say, blames its own backside, and thereby separates delusionally into a Siamese system: the front and back half of the dog; or the righteous I who acknowledges (via separation) the idiotic me (thereby landing in the white coat yet again).

    Finding this situation problematic and hellish is how we already introduce a sense of separation (wanting to be outside the problem).

    The humor is this: I pursue error and make a balls of it.

  • Ygodin

    As Mr Gamble has noted in the “Lilou Juicy Tour”, society is a concept. The unit that underpins this concept is the individual. Has Mr Eisenstein has shown in “The Ascent of Humanity” it is the story each individual tells himself which determines his view of the world and, consequently, his actions.

    If this is the case, as our self and world view changes from separateness to wholeness, from opposition to collaboration, our personal ethics should change accordingly. This means that a change in society has its roots in a change of ethics in each one of us.

    Technology, government, money are only tools at our service, how they are used reflects how we see our relation to others, do we see ourselves as independent entities fighting for survival or, as co-creators participating together in a whole.

    The world reflects our consciousness. Competition and domination leads to destruction and scarcity. Love leads to compassion, creativity and freedom. This is why love is the better way. For change to occur outside we need it to occur first inside. It takes courage to change our ways, and it is each ones responsibility.

  • Jean-luc roux

    I love this comment:
    The truth is that without a change in our consciousness and in the social systems built on our consciousness, no technology will be any more successful than any of those I just listed in bringing peace and prosperity to all people on earth. Indeed, such a vision, and the technologies that are part of it, seem “too good to be true” to someone accustomed to scarcity and habituated to the responses to scarcity: domination, control, struggle against each other and against nature. When this mindset changes, no new technology is even necessary. We already have, and always have had, potential abundance at our fingertips.

  • Hathamoon

    This movie is an accommodation to both those who crave fact and tangible material solution, and those who crave morally driven opinion in light of critical thinking. All of which are at different stages of the understanding of oneness and the irrelevant “living in lack state of mind.” The movie is pure stimulation for the interested to activate and seek information and cause. It presents society’s structural flaws that need tending and possible avenues of effective revolution. But within all of us we realize that we can only love others once we love ourselves, we know that in order to empower a movement, or an individual or a cause, we must be powerful ourselves. This movie allows the individual to realize the the amount of universal support and abundance available to them and subtly suggests that it is the individual who must pursue harmony in diligence and active participation. Otherwise the focused responsibility of a very few will become a burden poisoning their minds with power hungry delusions of grandiose conspiracy and self idolizing tactics of instant gratification and paranoid offensive onslaughts. It’s a very smart, universal friendly reminder, to get up off your ass and DO SOMETHING TO HELP!

  • Jai

    I wonder if Charles had any friends killed for their free energy inventions if he might understand that some of this story is very very right!!!

    There is a sharp end to this business and consciousness is not separate from it.

    Those who do not know history are destine to repeat it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkXrS0NnQM0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s7xwjC1BXM

    Naivety is not a functional approach any longer.

    I for one would like the most powerful families exposed so that humanity can see what is hidden in front of us. Without that, their attempts for control will be repeated and most like intensified.

    80% of every individuals life force goes into paying for energy that is no longer needed for anything other than its use as a control mechanism for the human population.

    Set your self free and claim your right these energies as the liberating devices that have come to the creative process on your behalf.

    peace,
    Jai

  • http://www.facebook.com/BrianaEmbodied Briana Barrett

    I am the 1%.
    I am the 99%
    I am a fraction of Us, and I’m not fractured – we’re not fractured – we ARE humanity looking ourself in the face in a giant cosmic mirror. It’s not our job to judge what we see, nor to compare it to anything. It’s our job to feel our humanity on the inside, looking out… looking in… and being seen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/BrianaEmbodied Briana Barrett

    “be them new romans
    don’t envy them my friend
    be their lives longer
    ah! their longer lives are spent
    without a love or faithful friend
    all those things they have to rent”
    ~Illumination by Gogol Bordello,
    a band giving voice to feelings that get in my way sometimes… in the way of allowing myself to be human, upset, angry, and ‘WRONG’/a misfit! After feeling separation consciously… I can more tangibly FEEL the ‘paradoxical’ unity that is so much better when felt than described.
    Following any feeling, any need… gets me there ; home.

  • Anonymous

    I like your review of Thrive. Blaming people is not the solution. The solution is changing the system – a difficult undertaking. All people are part of the system whether you are the 1% or 99%. We have “bought in” to the colonization system on a micro level (personal relationships) and on a macro level (organizational and community level). We need to ask ourselves, what is a citizen? What does a citizen look like in your neighborhood, your town, your country, your world? Who is your neighbor? And do you have colonizing or value adding thoughts about your neighbor?

  • Annevale

    Hi, I so agree with your comments and your clear concise approach. Thanks.

  • Nancy Crompton

    I also found the analogy of the metamorphosis of a caterpillar to be the most compelling and compassionate moment of the film. To their credit, the Gambles do emphasize nonviolence, peaceful transformation, and a hopeful future. The suppression of free energy is criminal, however. I have heard secondhand of researchers whose labs have been shut down and who have been thrown in jail on slim premises (not having a proper permit, for example)… and here’s the story I’ve heard: They now realize that there is safety in numbers. When free energy is finally viably created, they will rent a football stadium and introduce thousands of people to the devices at the same time. Be sure to be there!

  • http://www.americanmovement.us/ Ernest

    The fact is – that there is an underlying ‘PRINCIPLE’ of everything – when understood, even as a small portion , it reveals to the ‘seeker’ answers in whatever field it is applied.
    It is ‘universal’ as is mathematics. It cannot be ‘used up’ nor, ‘misapplied’.
    Within all structures of society there are many who want to exert control, consider using the term ‘law enforcement’, rather ‘police’ by using ‘law enforcement’ the consciousness shifts from thinking about ‘protect and serve’ archetype, to one strictly on the lookout for ‘transgressors of the law’ – so police will change their behavior, and they have!
    This is but simple example.
    We are all at a different ‘level’ in our understanding of ‘truth and reality’, as are children in a school classroom – we each, for whatever reason have different ‘gifts and talents’ that lead us to where we go in life, and yet this life as we seem to perceive it, it so small in comparison to infinity, or even the millions of years that many believe the Earth has existed, that is seems rather insignificant – so therefore, we must think in terms of our own EDC – Evolutionary Development of Consciousness – that is all we can be truly responsible for.
    So, what is left for any of us to do is to connect with each other honestly, adhering to seeking and doing that which is ‘good for all’ – and keeping an open mind so that the answers will come as needed.
    In Truth ,

  • Taylor Young

    It is very difficult, when sick and hungry, to consciously put effort into changing our mindsets. Conscious awareness is part of an evolutionary as well as personal process. Many have awakened with the help of being healthy, well fed and have a roof already over ourheads. Non-violent non-compliance with those who have sought to take these fundamental needs away from all of us and have already brought about devastation to human bodies and minds around the world is important, to gain back our health, feed our bodies and then the healthy brain can have the deeper thoughts of changing and creating a new mindset. The power elite and desire for world domination were created by powerful beings that are far beyond the average persons ability to comprehend, even your own. Non-compliance with the status quo is the only way to begin to break the bonds of their control. Humanity has evolvedt o this point and now in the process of a great evolutionary leap which has helped us to become aware of these beings, their agenda and how they have had a hand in influencing every aspect of our lives, but they could not stop evolution.

  • Floradeva

    So well said…Thank you for so eloquently stating what I was churning about inside. Separation is the issue! This is sooo true..I prefer to think of things in these terms that you stated above, rather than the illuminati/ the conspiracy theory feels so disheartening, unreachable unchangeable. The simple recognition that we are one is available to everyone, and totally doable! So glad you are here with us!

  • Peter H

    Freedom is a feeling we will ALL realise together, when it becomes obvious to ALL that there is no impediment to our personal survival, or restraint on our personal fulfilment. Once this truth is realised, why would anyone respond in any other way than feeling privileged to help others to their own fulfilment.

    Everything else is just the mechanics of clearing the path.

  • HarveyWAustin

    If I were to condense the effects of our present world paradigm and the possible paradigm for a new humanity, I would say this:

    All actions thus far taken by individuals, groups and nations correlate to a worldview of You OR Me. A shift to a worldview of You AND me would result in actions that correlate with that worldview… and the assumptions of separation and scarcity would shift to unity, compassion and sufficiency.